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Saiyan Saga Krillin's Destructo Disk (Canon wise) vs...
Topic Started: Aug 31 2016, 05:25 PM (2,475 Views)
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Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
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Frieza (1st Form)
Frieza (100%)
LSSJ Broly (Movie 8)
SSJ Vegito (Buu Saga)
Super 17 (SSJ Goku's Kamehameha absorbed)
SSJ4 Gogeta (Shadow Dragon Saga)
SSJ Goku (EoGT)
SSJGSSJ Vegito (DBS Future Trunks Saga)
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Is this a spite thread?

Anyways, I think anyone on this list will be able to see a Saiyan Arc Kienzan coming from a mile away and casually dodge it.

Krillin only cut Freeza's tail off because Freeza was careless, and it was still almost dodged. Freeza then proceeds to dodge multiple Kienzans, and he clearly wants nothing to do with them.

The Kienzan is supposed to cut through anything. Think of Saiyan Arc Oozaru Vegeta, he should be above 40,000 (Goku says KKx5 wouldn't work on him) at the very least and 180,000 at max. What is Krillin, 1,500ish? Vegeta is dozens of times stronger and still makes sure he dodges the Kienzan, and he didn't even see it.

I think any competent fighter is simply going to dodge the Kienzan if they are aware of it. I'm sure others will have better explanations, this is just my two cents.
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Destructo disk always gets the job done.
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It probs stop @ 100% Freeza @ most rn @ this point of time in DBS.


The Daizenshuu said it perhaps may or may not cut Nappa when it was first used. If it meant it could really cut through anything, it should have been clear about the Nappa statement.


The anime version where kienzan doesn't affect Perfect Cell is viable & it doesn't contradict the manga. lol
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I knew you'd latch onto that statement and milk it for all its worth, completely ignoring the blatant confirmation that it could cut through anything directly prior to that. Coupled with the fact that we actually know it would've slaughtered Nappa and Oozaru Vegeta, you have absolutely no case for clinging to that one line you're twisting in your favor.

The Kienzan, if successful, will cut through all these fools.
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Put that list on an ocean liner, let the Kienzan fly, and you've successfully recreated the opening scene of Ghost Ship.
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Aug 31 2016, 08:55 PM
Put that list on an ocean liner, let the Kienzan fly, and you've successfully recreated the opening scene of Ghost Ship.
I love you for this reference. So brutal.
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Idothink Kienzan can cut through anything, just varies by the fighter using this attack. . lol

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Also,Full Power ssj Future Trunk's sword also broke when he used it on 18 & I find that attack alot more powerful than Krillin's Kienzan.


So the anime version where Krillin's Kienzan didn't cut Perfect Cell is still viable & doesn't contradict the manga. lol
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Aug 31 2016, 10:02 PM
Idothink Kienzan can cut through anything, just varies by the fighter using this attack. . lol

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Also,Full Power ssj Future Trunk's sword also broke when he used it on 18 & I find that attack alot more powerful than Krillin's Kienzan.


So the anime version where Krillin's Kienzan didn't cut Perfect Cell is still viable & doesn't contradict the manga. lol
That's completely irrelevant. Trunks' sword is not the Kienzan. Actually provide proof the Kienzan can be stopped at a certain power level. So far you've just given a non-example and anime filler, both of which are worthless.
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Trunk's sword has more feats than Krillin's Kienzan atm. He cut Mecha Freeza in half with it.

Trunks also used all of his ssj force behind the sword.


Also, anime that doesn't contradict the manga is viable.


It would perhaps cut Nappa in half meaning the Kienzan, when it is used by different fighters, varies between how much pl that fighter has.


Find a contradiction for that. lol



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Anime wise kienzan stops at Freeza

Really not sure of this one, it can or can't cut all the list, i mean, last guys fron the list are billions, trillions and even more times stronger than Krillin
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The characters would have to stand there and let themselves be hit. Otherwise Krillin is going to miss every time.
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stops at frieza 100%
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Aug 31 2016, 11:13 PM
Trunk's sword has more feats than Krillin's Kienzan atm. He cut Mecha Freeza in half with it.

Trunks also used all of his ssj force behind the sword.


Also, anime that doesn't contradict the manga is viable.


It would perhaps cut Nappa in half meaning the Kienzan, when it is used by different fighters, varies between how much pl that fighter has.


Find a contradiction for that. lol



The Kienzan never hit because it was dodged every time. I wonder why. Well, it's your job to prove why the fighters wouldn't just stand there and tank it or block it. I'm in no mandatory position to find evidence to disprove anime filler when we're talking about the manga.

Also, the sword is irrelevant. There's no need to keep bringing it up. It isn't the Kienzan, nor was it implied to be similar in any way.
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Aug 31 2016, 11:13 PM
Trunk's sword has more feats than Krillin's Kienzan atm. He cut Mecha Freeza in half with it.

Trunks also used all of his ssj force behind the sword.


Also, anime that doesn't contradict the manga is viable.


It would perhaps cut Nappa in half meaning the Kienzan, when it is used by different fighters, varies between how much pl that fighter has.


Find a contradiction for that. lol



The Kienzan never hit because it was dodged every time. I wonder why. Well, it's your job to prove why the fighters wouldn't just stand there and tank it or block it. I'm in no mandatory position to find evidence to disprove anime filler when we're talking about the manga.

Also, the sword is irrelevant. There's no need to keep bringing it up. It isn't the Kienzan, nor was it implied to be similar in any way.
Okay. The daiz says kienzan can cut through anything.

So that means it can cut through a kamehameha on any level based on that quote. That is flawed logic because if it could through anything Goku would be using the kienzan instead of the kamehameha which he doesn't. lol


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